[Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Sat Nov 24 20:10:19 CET 2012

I think Mark would be happy to speak if we wanted on a Thursday/Friday. From a financial point of view not using the great hall would really help the CU's finances. It would be good to have a decision on it what we are going to do either way asap though?
From: caitlin.halfacre09 at imperial.ac.uk
To: lejenkins at live.co.uk; committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: RE: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:52:46 +0000

Started writing that before everyone else replied then didn't realise you all had, but it has the added input of my friend who might be coming. We seem to be
 heading towards a weekday (Thursday seems sensible to me) but not Andrew Sach speaking. Unless I misread it I don't think Mark said that he wouldn't be able to speak if we did a weekday, he just thought we'd prefer Andrew...

From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Halfacre, Caitlin [caitlin.halfacre09 at imperial.ac.uk]

Sent: 24 November 2012 16:23

To: Ben Jenkins; committee at iccu.co.uk

Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

OK, so the decision we were thinking about on Wednesday kind of boiled down to:

Weekday + church => increased numbers due to weekday, possibly decreased due to people not wanting to go to churchWeekend + Great Hall => decreased numbers due to weekend, possibly increased numbers due not being in a church
It feels a little equal on both sides, and on Wednesday I was definitely on the side of people not wanting to go to church. Though after reading Mark's email, I decided to ask my housemate for an outside opinion and she said she'd always prefer a weekday,
 and said that she figured most people would like the atmosphere of a church at Christmas and pointed out that a lot of the choir and other music concerts are in St. Stephen's Gloucester road and pull a reasonable crowd.

So I'm now leaning back towards Wednesday I think. What does everyone else think?

In other news, I love this Christmas video by Glen Scrivener. http://vimeo.com/54075943

Caitlin

From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Ben Jenkins [lejenkins at live.co.uk]

Sent: 23 November 2012 20:04

To: committee at iccu.co.uk

Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Just got this from Mark, what do you guys think?

"Hi Ben

I am, of course, very happy to serve the CU and help out in that way if Andrew Sach is unable to speak. 

Is it okay if I ask a couple of questions of the CU cttee about the Saturday choice? Feel free to forward this on to them. I am happy to go with what the CU decide but, if it is ok, may I ask these questions as someone who wants to support the CU in all you
 do.

1) I assume CUs always choose midweek dates for Carols as it means a maximum potential number of students already around campus and therefore easily accessible and within reach. Are you convinced as a cttee that more (or as many) students would come back into
 college on a Saturday for a Carols than would stay around midweek? What persuades you that is the case - have you all asked friends to see if they would bother to come back in for a carol service, for example? It may be that the committee have each already
 invited 20 or so friends and they have confirmed they would come in from home on a saturday - in which case - woohoo! 

2) Why the choice of Saturday ? In particular, was it driven by being the BEST time and day to reach non-Christian students or by availability of a preferred choice of venue? If the former, then great and let's roll with that research. If the latter, then I
 fear any benefit you have as a result of being on campus will be nullified by choosing a day when students are not around on campus.

3) If the venue is the real issue then it may be a case of the tail wagging the dog. I know you all want the most number of students to be reached via the carol service so I would imagine you want to pick the best time, day and speaker for that goal and then
 find a venue that fits. For example, if you decided Thursday or Friday early evening is best with Andrew Sach speaking (choosing your mission speaker is the norm) then I would imagine you would try to find the best possible local venue that works. For example,
 in such circumstances, I would be happy for you to use Christ Church Kensington for your service with Andrew Sach speaking. It will have the advantage of being under 5 mins walk from campus, being warm and looking very Christmassy with huge Christmas tree,
 tea lights, decorations etc. I would not expect to have a role in the service as I would expect you to lead it and Andrew to speak.

I guess what I am trying to say is if the venue is the problem then here is a workable solution to that problem without undermining your main goal of getting the gospel out to the largest potential number of students. Sorry if that is all very cheeky for a
 speaker to ask or say but there it is - I say it out of love for Imperial CU and out of real support for all you are doing. If you still think that Saturday is the best day for reaching the students then I am happy to help.

God bless

your brother

Mark"

From: james.faux10 at imperial.ac.uk

To: lejenkins at live.co.uk

Subject: RE: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:42:06 +0000

Yes! Praise God :)

From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Ben Jenkins [lejenkins at live.co.uk]

Sent: 23 November 2012 16:05

To: gt.schofield at yahoo.co.uk; committee at iccu.co.uk

Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

I spoke to Mark and he says he is happy to do it!

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:44:28 +0000

From: gt.schofield at yahoo.co.uk

To: committee at iccu.co.uk

Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Thanks James,

So the past two years we have had Carol service speakers from HTB and St Helens, so we decided on wednesday to go for someone from CCK or CCM.

Ben, could you contact Mark O'Donoghue to ask if he would be up for it?

If he can't make it then I will ask Matt Fuller or Matt Loyd from CCM if they would be up for it.

Thanks everyone, lets be praising God for all he is doing praying for the carol service!!

Guy

From: "Faux, James" <james.faux10 at imperial.ac.uk>

To: "committee at iccu.co.uk" <committee at iccu.co.uk>

Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 13:20

Subject: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Hi everyone, Sachy has let me know that he is happy for someone else to do the talk on Satyrday 8th:

"Ok mate. If you are personally sure that you'll find someone faithful as my replacement then I'd prefer to honour my commitment to Tim's wedding. Thanks"

So let's get asking the other people on the list!

James

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