[Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

[Baldwin, Luke]

Meaning, I think we should ask a different speaker.

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From: Baldwin, Luke
Sent: 24 November 2012 16:04
To: Faux, James; Ben Jenkins; committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: RE: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

To be honest, I agree with Mark.

However, I don't think we should/can in good conscience get Andrew Sach to speak.

I think Thursday, CCK/lecture hall would attract more people than Saturday.

LUke

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From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Faux, James [james.faux10 at imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: 24 November 2012 16:03
To: Ben Jenkins; committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Right. In answer to Mark's question, I think the primary reason we've gone for the Saturday is because we wanted the Great Hall. I have not personally asked my friends which day they would prefer, but will do so. I agree with Mark that we are unlikely to get more people in on a Saturday than a Friday, despite what John and others said in Wednesday's meeting. Particularly the '95%' - students we will not be personally inviting.

If it were up to me, I think holding it on the Thursday or Friday would get the most students through the doors. Take Wednesday's event with John Wyatt as an example - Wednesdays are like weekends, in that people are at home or off campus after lunchtime. It was under-attended largely due to this reason, I think.

However, since we've already cancelled Andrew Sach and changed our minds several times, I would be very embarassed/reluctant to switch again. But if everyone agrees with me that Saturday is not a good day, and would like Sachy on board, I'll bite the bullet and ask him.

I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this asap. (Use 'reply all')

James
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From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Ben Jenkins [lejenkins at live.co.uk]
Sent: 23 November 2012 20:04
To: committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Just got this from Mark, what do you guys think?

"Hi Ben
I am, of course, very happy to serve the CU and help out in that way if Andrew Sach is unable to speak.
Is it okay if I ask a couple of questions of the CU cttee about the Saturday choice? Feel free to forward this on to them. I am happy to go with what the CU decide but, if it is ok, may I ask these questions as someone who wants to support the CU in all you do.

1) I assume CUs always choose midweek dates for Carols as it means a maximum potential number of students already around campus and therefore easily accessible and within reach. Are you convinced as a cttee that more (or as many) students would come back into college on a Saturday for a Carols than would stay around midweek? What persuades you that is the case - have you all asked friends to see if they would bother to come back in for a carol service, for example? It may be that the committee have each already invited 20 or so friends and they have confirmed they would come in from home on a saturday - in which case - woohoo!

2) Why the choice of Saturday ? In particular, was it driven by being the BEST time and day to reach non-Christian students or by availability of a preferred choice of venue? If the former, then great and let's roll with that research. If the latter, then I fear any benefit you have as a result of being on campus will be nullified by choosing a day when students are not around on campus.

3) If the venue is the real issue then it may be a case of the tail wagging the dog. I know you all want the most number of students to be reached via the carol service so I would imagine you want to pick the best time, day and speaker for that goal and then find a venue that fits. For example, if you decided Thursday or Friday early evening is best with Andrew Sach speaking (choosing your mission speaker is the norm) then I would imagine you would try to find the best possible local venue that works. For example, in such circumstances, I would be happy for you to use Christ Church Kensington for your service with Andrew Sach speaking. It will have the advantage of being under 5 mins walk from campus, being warm and looking very Christmassy with huge Christmas tree, tea lights, decorations etc. I would not expect to have a role in the service as I would expect you to lead it and Andrew to speak.

I guess what I am trying to say is if the venue is the problem then here is a workable solution to that problem without undermining your main goal of getting the gospel out to the largest potential number of students. Sorry if that is all very cheeky for a speaker to ask or say but there it is - I say it out of love for Imperial CU and out of real support for all you are doing. If you still think that Saturday is the best day for reaching the students then I am happy to help.
God bless
your brother
Mark"

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From: james.faux10 at imperial.ac.uk
To: lejenkins at live.co.uk
Subject: RE: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:42:06 +0000

Yes! Praise God :)
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From: committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk [committee-bounces at iccu.co.uk] on behalf of Ben Jenkins [lejenkins at live.co.uk]
Sent: 23 November 2012 16:05
To: gt.schofield at yahoo.co.uk; committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

I spoke to Mark and he says he is happy to do it!

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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:44:28 +0000
From: gt.schofield at yahoo.co.uk
To: committee at iccu.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Thanks James,

So the past two years we have had Carol service speakers from HTB and St Helens, so we decided on wednesday to go for someone from CCK or CCM.

Ben, could you contact Mark O'Donoghue to ask if he would be up for it?

If he can't make it then I will ask Matt Fuller or Matt Loyd from CCM if they would be up for it.

Thanks everyone, lets be praising God for all he is doing praying for the carol service!!

Guy

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From: "Faux, James" <james.faux10 at imperial.ac.uk>
To: "committee at iccu.co.uk" <committee at iccu.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 13:20
Subject: [Committee] We need a Carols speaker!

Hi everyone, Sachy has let me know that he is happy for someone else to do the talk on Satyrday 8th:

"Ok mate. If you are personally sure that you'll find someone faithful as my replacement then I'd prefer to honour my commitment to Tim's wedding. Thanks"

So let's get asking the other people on the list!

James

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